This is an interesting situation. Just to be clear, I don't consider anything here "serious". No game breaking failures, nothing that makes me want to throw my phone against a wall. Just a few curiosities. Things I wish were a little more predictable. On the iPod Classic they were predictable, which makes this a little more odd. Why did the earlier music player have no problems with something that confuses the heck out of the more advanced operating system?
With a large library I do almost all my listening via playlist. In particular, I like smart playlists to keep recent repeats to a minimum. So in my library I have a sort of master list called, imaginatively enough, "Main List"; that currently contains well over 10000 songs (everything except my seasonal and novelty music).
I listen to four main smart playlists with some regularity. I should probably explain too that I do most of testing and checking of stuff in my car now, since the Uconnect display is the only place I still get track numbers displayed.
1. "The Best". This is fun, upbeat music I listen to at the gym or when I'm alone in the car. It has only two qualifications; a) tracks with four or five stars and b) "last played" is not in the last 35 days. This does not tie back into "Main List", which means some seasonal and novelty songs are included.
It works fine. Exactly as I'd want it to.
2. "MegaMix". This is what I listen to 90% of the time. I like a wide range of stuff; and I like how I can have classical and classic rock right next to each other. This list has three conditions a) must be playlist "Main List" b) plays is greater than 0 and c) "last played" is not in the last 70 days.
It works fine in iTunes. And it will update whenever I sync. But it won't EVER update on the device.
The work around is simple. I sync four or five times a week. But its mildly annoying when I switch off this list for some reason, and then come back to it; and promptly get three songs I just listened to! If it were working correctly (like it does in iTunes and used to my iPod classic) those songs wouldn't come back for 70 days! Like I said, I have a work around, but it is occasionally a minor annoyance.
3. "Worship". My Sunday morning playlist. Clever, right? This has three conditions and again does not directly tie back into "Main List" since I have a small number of songs that are ONLY on this list. a) "rating" is in the range three to four stars b) "last played" is not in the last 45 days and c) "genre" is not "holiday".
This list works almost better than expected. On "The Best" I can see the number of tracks on the list update every time I reselect the list; but on "Worship" the track count updates every single time a song ends! Bizarre. iTunes will do this, but my Ipod never did. Its like, in this case only, the iOS device functions more like iTunes than a mobile device. It is certainly not a problem! But it is unexpected.
4. "Recently Added". Self explanatory. This has two conditions. a) playlist is "Main List" and b) play count is zero.
This list is completely broken. I have never seen a single track ever added to this list. Since I can no longer assign star ratings to my songs from the device anyway its not such a big deal. But because of how broken this list is I long ago got used to doing all of my initial listening direct from iTunes on my computer. Its not like that's a huge burden, just an annoyance. But it sure is curious it won't work at all!
Now as I said up top I check this mostly in my car. I can start on Megamix and see I have 3812 songs on the list. After listening to 20 songs I can switch to "the Best" and see 688 songs. After listening to ten tracks and switching back to Megamix it will STILL have 3812. Now if I jump right back to "The Best" it will show 678, reflecting the ten songs I listened to earlier. While Megamix is stuck on 3812.
This makes me wonder what is broken on Megamix? It COULD be the "playlist is Main List" requirement, but Main List IS on the device. All my music is on the device. My only other thought is just if the file is too big. Can the device not process playlists over 1500 or something? THAT I could fix!
Sorry for a monster long post! But I do find the logic, or not, of the smart playlists to be fascinating. If anyone actually knows what's going on I'd love to hear!
With a large library I do almost all my listening via playlist. In particular, I like smart playlists to keep recent repeats to a minimum. So in my library I have a sort of master list called, imaginatively enough, "Main List"; that currently contains well over 10000 songs (everything except my seasonal and novelty music).
I listen to four main smart playlists with some regularity. I should probably explain too that I do most of testing and checking of stuff in my car now, since the Uconnect display is the only place I still get track numbers displayed.
1. "The Best". This is fun, upbeat music I listen to at the gym or when I'm alone in the car. It has only two qualifications; a) tracks with four or five stars and b) "last played" is not in the last 35 days. This does not tie back into "Main List", which means some seasonal and novelty songs are included.
It works fine. Exactly as I'd want it to.
2. "MegaMix". This is what I listen to 90% of the time. I like a wide range of stuff; and I like how I can have classical and classic rock right next to each other. This list has three conditions a) must be playlist "Main List" b) plays is greater than 0 and c) "last played" is not in the last 70 days.
It works fine in iTunes. And it will update whenever I sync. But it won't EVER update on the device.
The work around is simple. I sync four or five times a week. But its mildly annoying when I switch off this list for some reason, and then come back to it; and promptly get three songs I just listened to! If it were working correctly (like it does in iTunes and used to my iPod classic) those songs wouldn't come back for 70 days! Like I said, I have a work around, but it is occasionally a minor annoyance.
3. "Worship". My Sunday morning playlist. Clever, right? This has three conditions and again does not directly tie back into "Main List" since I have a small number of songs that are ONLY on this list. a) "rating" is in the range three to four stars b) "last played" is not in the last 45 days and c) "genre" is not "holiday".
This list works almost better than expected. On "The Best" I can see the number of tracks on the list update every time I reselect the list; but on "Worship" the track count updates every single time a song ends! Bizarre. iTunes will do this, but my Ipod never did. Its like, in this case only, the iOS device functions more like iTunes than a mobile device. It is certainly not a problem! But it is unexpected.
4. "Recently Added". Self explanatory. This has two conditions. a) playlist is "Main List" and b) play count is zero.
This list is completely broken. I have never seen a single track ever added to this list. Since I can no longer assign star ratings to my songs from the device anyway its not such a big deal. But because of how broken this list is I long ago got used to doing all of my initial listening direct from iTunes on my computer. Its not like that's a huge burden, just an annoyance. But it sure is curious it won't work at all!
Now as I said up top I check this mostly in my car. I can start on Megamix and see I have 3812 songs on the list. After listening to 20 songs I can switch to "the Best" and see 688 songs. After listening to ten tracks and switching back to Megamix it will STILL have 3812. Now if I jump right back to "The Best" it will show 678, reflecting the ten songs I listened to earlier. While Megamix is stuck on 3812.
This makes me wonder what is broken on Megamix? It COULD be the "playlist is Main List" requirement, but Main List IS on the device. All my music is on the device. My only other thought is just if the file is too big. Can the device not process playlists over 1500 or something? THAT I could fix!
Sorry for a monster long post! But I do find the logic, or not, of the smart playlists to be fascinating. If anyone actually knows what's going on I'd love to hear!
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